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[Webinar] Collaborative, not competitive — Reimagining district and county-wide online learning

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Schools within the same district or county don’t need to compete with one another for online learning resources. Rather — by hiring local teachers and using our award-winning course content — they can collaborate with one another to teach online students across multiple schools or districts.
This win/win solution has already been successfully implemented in districts around the state, including St. Clair RESA and Gull Lake Community Schools. In this webinar, we’ll walk through how you can use our collaborative partnership model in your educational community.
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Good morning and welcome to our Michigan virtual webinar on collaborative partnerships we still have some attendees joining so we're just gonna wait just a few seconds here and get everybody on the call we're very excited about the large number of participants we have registered this morning and excited for our panelists to share their stories with you on our collaborative.

Partnerships so we'll wait just a couple of seconds more and make sure that we have everyone who is registered here on the call thanks so much for taking time out of your morning hopefully it's looking like spring in your area of the woods all right it looks like we have the majority of our attendees who have registered so we will get started this.

Morning again I want to welcome you to Michigan virtuals webinar on collaborative partnerships my name is Kristen Flynn and the executive director of student learning services at Michigan virtual my team oversees the course development and acquisitions and teacher hiring for are over 250 middle and high school online courses with nearly 30,000 enrollments annually I've been here for.

Almost five years and prior to that served as a high school English teacher an administrator at every level including central office over the last 22 years prior to joining the Michigan virtual team Michigan virtual is excited to recently have celebrated our 20th year in 2018 with over 250,000 enrollments I'm sorry 250,000 enrollments as a nonprofit organization.

We not only believe in advancing k12 digital learning and teaching through research practice and partnerships but also know that every person can use digital learning to help reach his or her full potential before I introduce the great guests we have with us today please note that our purpose is to share a successful model of working collaboratively with reese's.

And is DS and individual districts to provide a solution to multiple district challenges and introduce a collaborative partnership model as a solution I'm really excited that these two guests today in addition to one of our Michigan virtual colleagues will be sharing success stories of two different collaborative partnerships just a few housekeeping notes so that you'll have.

An awesome webinar experience today by default your microphones will be on mute if you'd like to ask questions please type into the chat box and we'll discuss those questions at the end of the session the chat option is at the bottom of the zoo webinar screen to chat simply click the chat icon and begin typing we will also be monitoring the chat.

Window during the presentation and respond to your questions in the chat or find a moment to ask the question during a pause or break if you'd like to verbally express your question please raise your hand and the webinar manager will help provide you the opportunity to speak this meeting is being recorded so we will share the link of the recording with you at the conclusion in case you.

Would like to review or send on to someone else with that I'd like to start us off by just sharing some of the challenges our guests will be discussing today in relationship to their respective programs these district challenges are what we have heard about in the field they're what we heard about during our strategic planning process several years.

Ago where we sought a great deal of feedback from the field specifically from administrators in the state and so I'm really excited that all of these things that are listed here are areas of focus for both of the guests that will be speaking today and without further ado I'd like to introduce our guest panel Mike good morning I am Mike doneger the administrator for.

Collaborative partnerships at Michigan virtual I recently retired from public education with over 20 years in administration the last 12 being a high school principal I understand the wide variety of challenges that we face on a continual basis such as budgets personalizing learning for our students within the limited resources we have and trying to fit that into a simple.

Schedule that is beneficial to everyone students and the staff that's why I believe the collaborative partnership model is a win-win for everyone good morning I'm Kristin Dee from the st. Clair County Arisa and I've been supporting the use of technology for to facilitate teaching and learning here since 2007 and my teaching background is in the elementary classroom um we're in.

Year two of our collaborative partnership with Michigan virtual we do the countywide program where students from any of our local high schools can take Michigan virtual courses taught by a st. Claire County teacher and our instructors teach for us part time in addition to their face-to-face employment at our local schools right good morning I'm Bobbie Jo stoner from.

Gull Lake Community Schools which is in the Kalamazoo County area so I represent a single district user in the collaborative partnership I have been in education for about 19 years I was previously a middle school teacher a high school teacher I joined gull lake as a middle school counselor became a high school counselor and that journey has led me to my new.

Position which is titled principal of early college and innovative programs and that means I have the great privilege of overseeing a k-12 full-time virtual school all of the virtual learning that middle school and high school brick-and-mortar students take throughout their school day I oversee a home school a partnership program and an early college program we are in year one.

Of our collaborative partnership we've been longtime users of Michigan virtual for many many years but this is our first year as a collaborative partner with Michigan virtual happy to be here thank you so much panel we're really excited about them continuing to share more about their roles and their specific area of the state and a little bit more about their educational.

Institution how they're uniquely sharing and participating in a collaborative partnership so just to clarify in level-set for everyone a collaborative partnership on it on the basic level is Michigan virtuals content and courses with local district teachers trained in the pedagogy of online instructional practices by doing this model course costs are substantially reduced because.

You're using your own local district teachers and not paying for Michigan virtuals teachers who've known for years where you have highly qualified certified teachers but you're now using your own local district teachers and you're only using our content so this can be done by district by county by multiple districts or by multiple counties or there might be even other.

Ways that we haven't even thought of yet so what's great is that on the surface this is what it is in its simplest form but when we go in to talk about a collaborative partnership we look at the specific needs of a particular county district multiple counties multiple districts to really mass customize this for you and to make it be something that is going to for.

Sure meet the needs from that very first slide that we talked about so with that we kind of formulated some questions as a team that we seem are most relevant to people that might be considering a collaborative partnership for your particular area of the state so we're going to start off with what were the challenges your district was trying to solve through a collaborative.

Partnership with Michigan virtual so this is Kristen from st. Claire Risa I'll jump in to say you know we have several needs that this program fills but what really created that sense of urgency is that we had a for-profit virtual charter setting up shop you know right in the heart of the downtown of the district with you know half of our student population and to the credit of.

Our superintendent and one of our local assistants oops you know they said hey you know if this is an option that our families want why don't we develop something countywide where the students can still be connected to their home schools but have this paradigm of full-time online learning perfect and from the gull lake area as a single district what we were.

Facing was that our district about eight years ago our superintendent at that time Chris Rundle he was very innovative and he introduced new programs to our district which included a homeschool partnership a full-time alternative virtual school and an early college program among a few other things but with these new programs he also assured teachers that no one would lose their.

Jobs due to these new programs and as the programs grew we witnessed many changing dynamics that were requiring our students to have more flexible learning options one of them being our early college program expects our students to start dual-enrollment by their junior year and they have to transport themselves to the college campus which.

Is located about 30 minutes away so our students often need at a virtual class to fill in gaps they were missing or to accommodate travel time we also had some unique student situations with a variety of learners that needed flexible learning a violinist that was traveling the world performing his craft and a future NASCAR driver that is on the road most days of the year we also had a.

Growing population of homeschool students that were interested in electives with us but wanted to leverage seat time flexibility in order to do that great thanks panel I really appreciate that the next question is what is it what has the experience been like for the instructors that are teaching Michigan virtual classes online for our teachers I've heard that they.

Have been so pleased with the quality of relationships they've been able to establish with their students they may never see them face to face or sometimes those students are within the building and they get to check in with them from time to time but they have you know the way the courses are structured the teachers are shifting into more of that facilitator role in learning and can.

Individualize the supports for the students because they're not just dispensing knowledge they're more or less making sure the students are getting to that deeper level of understanding and I would echo everything in gull lake I would echo everything Kristen shared many of our teachers that are teaching in the collaborative joined us from.

Brick-and-mortar and had varying levels of online experience so they really have reported that it's a lot of new learning challenges because you're learning how to take the craft and art of teaching into an online format and not sacrifice relationships so some of the things that they've mentioned are that they really like Michigan virtual in the sense of how relevant and modern it is.

Compared to other platforms they've given some examples about how some assignments are to incorporate texting or Facebook posts for historical figures you know they use modern examples in criminology and economics they also really like that the overall content and the way students submit makes it much more difficult for students to plagiarize their answers as we've seen.

In some other platforms with academic integrity issues there is a feature called safeassign and the teachers report that that has been fantastic for checking the integrity of student work and they also really mentioned liking the discussion boards and ways you can model a discussion that you would take in a traditional brick-and-mortar into the online format I think it's important.

To note that many teachers are stating that they have better relationships with the students that are online because they have that one-on-one contact with them in a brick and mortar classroom you might have all thirty students in your class but do you really get to have that one-on-one communication with each one of them every day when the online classes you do great we do have a.

Question from our chat and so I guess I throw that out open to either panelists how do you handle GPA class rank etc with kids in a blended curriculum situation where they might be taking some face-to-face some online some dual enrollment etc oh that's a good question there's a lot of different factors so from gull lake I will say there's a lot of different factors that go into that.

But I can say for the virtual classes that we count those just the same as we would a traditional brick-and-mortar class the same grading scale when Michigan virtual assigns the point value at the end the school has the right and they always have had the right to determine how it fits into your grading scale in gull lake we've decided to keep it the same as our brick-and-mortar and.

So the only classes that would be interpreted any differently are just the same as what we would do with ap for example Advanced Placement receives weighted grades but everything else receives a letter grade just the same as brick-and-mortar would great thank you for that next question what type of training was involved for the instructors to prepare them for teaching.

Michigan virtual classes oh so we went through the exact same screening and onboarding process as any of the other Michigan virtual instructors and that has been a huge benefit for our teachers and because they now can also pick up additional sections directly through Michigan virtual and that has been the case for a couple of our instructors which has been a really exciting.

Opportunity for them and what that consisted of was you know Michigan virtual handled all of the applications contacted the teachers to put have them go through the screening process we had a full-day orientation followed up by a four-week onboarding course which was great because it matched you know technically how will you facilitate learning in the blackboard environment.

And handle grading and you know and a lot of those being efficient you know educator but also the keying in to those essential components of the pedagogy so how do you give feedback how do you keep students motivated so things that you know all good teachers do but just might look a little bit different in an online class yes so we followed the similar process that Kristin did in Saint Clair.

County area so our teachers had the application process they went through our professional development with Michigan virtual started with the full-day training and kickoff where Michigan virtual brought their staff to us which we really appreciated we then had our teachers go through the four-week onboarding course to teach them about online pedagogy there are the.

Webinars that teachers can access we also really really noted that we like the ongoing coaching so each teacher is matched with a Content lead expert from Michigan virtual so as our were onboarding and throughout the entire time they have access to their content coach through Michigan virtual which really has proved to be helpful and then additionally we were about one.

Semester into our collaborative and we really wanted to regroup and Michigan virtual had set up a professional development called elevates and again they brought their team back to go Lake to work with our teachers to discuss how the first semester went and give them additional training moving forward and I just want go ahead inner reiterate you know the importance of Michigan virtual.

Always providing a coach in the content area for every single teacher in the collaborative so we do have you know monthly department meetings and monthly webinars that teachers can attend but they also have that personalized coach that they can contact with questions and advice on on different needs on online teaching thank you Mike there is a question in our chat window about.

Safeassign safeassign is included with michigan virtual courses it is not an additional cost and I believe that it does function similarly to turnitin.com which is the question so again it's checking for that this is the original work of the author or the student that is submitting the work all right next question as an administrator what has your.

Experience been like with the collaborative partnership so for us you know there are a lot of different things to consider in terms of making a program like this and taking districts current processes and the way that they do things but also making it work on a county level so there's a lot of ins and outs that go into it and Michigan virtual has partnered and helped us work.

Through every little in and out that it takes to make a program like this effective you know things like scheduling and he in big component for us was teacher evaluation on how we would have value our teachers in an online classroom because that may be so different to the current processes in place and making sure that that's communicated to.

Teachers and everybody's feeling comfortable about that piece so everything single thing along the way we've been coached through it by people who have such a home and good a long history of doing this work I echo everything Kristin said there you know as an administrator it's been a tremendous learning curve and very challenging because I do not have a.

Background in educational technology but luckily I'm blessed to work with people that do have a background in educational technology so it I've learned a lot about technology and the appropriate use of it within the school setting so for us as an administrator I've just really appreciated being able to see how it's helped us to personalize learning and increase student choice and voice and.

Their selections we were not always able to offer every single option that we can offer now you know I remember days when a student would want to take a certain class especially a foreign language and if we didn't offer that in our building we didn't have anything we could give them as a solution so essentially when students come to us with what they want to learn we can try to match them up.

With their pathway so it's made the whole educational development plan process you know my former counseling it's really helped us leverage that EDP process I also think as an administrator it's been interesting to watch how its building staff capacity digital learning has been happening in pockets really well throughout the district but you can see that it's starting to build staff.

Capacity people are asking questions there is an overall increased interest in what's happening in digital learning options and you know like Kristin said knowing as an administrator how to evaluate teachers in an online teaching capacity in the sense - of supporting them like they're doing this work so what are the look fors what are the critical conversations we can have what.

Are the questions we should be asking as administrators just Hort the online teachers that has been very helpful that's really exciting you know Michigan virtual is often seen themselves as a not just a service for a provider and change agent but really with this collaborative partnership model as a capacity builder so it's exciting to hear that that's happening.

With the local district teachers because our goal is to provide the training and support and resources and then walk away when we're not needed anymore so that the local district can continue to build that capacity year after year so super exciting I'm so thrilled that there's more opportunities in terms of world languages we do offer seven of them seven different world language with.

American Sign Language being our number one course and 29 Advanced Placement course is in addition to the the wealth of other core and elective offering so that's really exciting to hear let's talk about the challenges what obstacles did you face in operationalizing a collaborative partnership with students teachers and community alright I'll start us off from go lake on this one so.

I would say that in operationalizing it it really forced us to develop some systems and make sure we had the resources and the manpower and the right staffing to pull this off and make it happen to Michigan virtual provides a lot of support to us but there's still things you have to do in your own district internally to make sure this is successful so for us it was developing a.

Lot of systems you know working with our counselors and our mentors and our online teachers to make sure we were all on the same page also definitely an increase in needing to know how to advise students in their choices and help guide them for their selections like Kristin said you know over 250 courses and that is wonderful but that is a lot of choice so helping students.

Try to figure out where they should start in the Michigan virtual process managing enrollments has been a piece that Michigan virtual has helped us with by just knowing how to work the system and the technology side of it and then a lot of it though the obstacles in Opera a tional izing this was just for us developing expectations for our students and their learning requirements it is.

Any pace as we know and that's one of the benefits of virtual learning but at the same time you know your school wants to know where students are at so for us we had to develop some internal systems as to what we expected students to do who could work off-site who could work on-site what were our contracts in place for notifying parents of this and then.

Really just managing the space we have a virtual lab that runs at our high school for example that virtual lab runs five blocks a day we have five blocks in our school day and so we have a virtual lab running every hour so supporting supporting all the staff that is doing this work is one of the pieces I'd mentioned for gull lake bobbi-jo we do have a question in the chat window could.

You share some of the check points you put in place for student progress sure so ours our student progress checkpoints I would say that we have focused more heavily on what our mentors have given us guidance on so the ones that are in the lab with the students daily and so for the most part that's gonna be the pacing guides that we use and when they fall a certain percentage behind their.

Pacing the mentor may require them to come back in the building and work until they're caught back up so that's actually an see that's one of the beauties of doing this is we actually picked up that idea by going to visit another local school that uses Michigan virtual and they had given us that idea and that's helped us tremendously turn our success rates around we tend to have.

Very high success rates and they increased after we did that so having a contract that requires students to be in the lab unless they're off pace and I'd be happy to share some more information from our mentors you know more specifically a little later and all our courses come with pacing guides multiple pacing guides so if students do get off-track so I know during the.

The snow day challenges if you're a semester district and you missed a bunch of days mentors would often maybe encourage students to follow the trimester or the summer pacing which would be at a 12-week pace or a 10-week pace to get students back on on pace with a course great Kristin yeah so with us very similar to go like in the in the fact that you're designing systems and.

You know and back mapping network out for us to say you know what things need to be done when and by whom really expect a timeline things out to say you know to figure out what students the students want to take or what courses the students want to take at each school when do we have enough students to staff that with a local teacher also another component was how do we provide a.

Consistent experience to the students because many of our students have a Michigan virtual section and also one for learn on so how do we ensure that the students have the same you know same expectations and in terms of their pacing and kind of how they go about getting help when needed just to make sure there's no you know the week' are having a uniform you know.

Set of messaging I'm gonna getting that back to the different stakeholder groups such as our superintendents principals counselors I'm just making sure that we have these lines of communication and they're tailored to the audience because different stakeholder groups are doing different parts of supporting this work great I do want to bring up a question in the chat any thoughts or experience.

As to how this works in a small district for starters it would be likely we would not have teachers in all areas that would that is the challenge I know for for st. Claire risa that was part of the reason they came forward was they had a many small districts that didn't have that and that's where that mass customization comes in it might be a teacher or two starting out and teaching.

Our content with your local district students but it might also mean using some of Michigan virtuals instructors or a cross-section of instructors across the county so while one small district might not have an Advanced Placement teacher there could be one in a neighboring district that now has enough students to run a section from you know that.

Teachers school district to that you know five or six others within a County I'm gonna discuss that in a future slide okay great thanks Mike what are the most positive aspects of using a collaborative partnership model by Michigan virtual all right so go lake this is Bobby Joe here I would say most positive aspect overall is that we love that it's got like teachers teaching.

Gull lake students we just love having that sense of community and local conversation we can have with our teachers teaching the gull leg courses you know that means our teachers are available to me talk communicate with students taking Michigan virtual so every day I'm at the high school I see students visiting with their virtual teachers in the labs or in their office.

Hours we've implemented office hours this year so that every student has the access to their online teacher that's been helpful the we also like the increased success rates in general our students the in success rates have been going up over the years we've used Michigan virtual because we've gotten better at the mentoring supports as we've built a system but we also find.

That with our teachers locally it's just easier for those conversations to happen because they pass each other in the hallway and the mentors and teachers are talking to each other in person more frequently so we think that is increasing success rates and then the other piece is the ability to offer courses that we would not have enough students to run in a full classroom in.

The brick-and-mortar school so if we can't run a section of Spanish for for example due to student conflicts and their schedules that we can still offer it in the online environment with local support yeah I think that's about it for me the only other piece I wanted to add sorry Christine only other piece I wanted to add was keeping our students you know it allows us to keep our.

Students we can meet their needs any capacity like with all of the programs that we're offering we really feel like there's no reason we need to lose any of our students or have them leave gull lake for any reason Kristin I'll turn it over to you ya know I you know I echo everything you're saying as well in terms of completion rates.

I've been so pleased with that last semester our average completion rate across all of our sections was eighty-five percent which is an increase over last year an increase when compared to other virtual options and three sections of our classes had a hundred percent completion rate with one of the teachers having over 20 students and every single student passed and you know.

Had a wonderful online experience so that was just something I was so pleased with and again to echo what you're saying about that community feel we've got an instructor who is a volleyball coach and she was playing you know hope the team were the majority of her students were at and so they got to have that you know connection outside of the virtual classroom and it's just been a.

Really powerful way to connect with students just in a different in a different way and I've noticed in addition to so typically people have used Michigan virtual content to fill those gaps in the classes they can't offer in there within their school um and that's always been happening but right now what I'm noticing is we have a large and I'd say the majority of our.

Enrollments are actually for core classes whether it be math and ela and social studies and the cool thing with that is that frees those students up to taking advantage of some of those electives and special things that are offered within their own home schools that they you know may not have been able to take advantage of bobbi-jo I think this question probably comes to.

You back to the lab setting typically how many students per mentor per hour are in the lab that's a great question so we started with like a traditional classroom setting and had a set of laptops or Chromebooks in there for students to use we've since expanded so that was about you know up to 30 students that we would have in a lab this year we have taken down the.

Dividing wall between two rooms so we actually have opened it up so that the capacity could be closer to about 50 students in the classroom now that I will say has come from the mentors feeling like they could handle that so in the first few years there's no way that could happen but as the mentors have developed systems and processes they've said I can handle more students.

In the lab at one time so I would say we really would not want to go over 45 for the most part but that is most of them hover around 30 ish I would say but I we have opened it up so some classes will go larger great and I want to turn it over to a really important question which is from the student perspective what are your students saying about taking online classes with local.

Teachers through Michigan virtuals collaborative partnership positive yeah I would say really positive in gull lake we get positive feedback from students and parents who you know have been familiar with Michigan virtual or are new to it I think they like the idea of the local ownership they know that the content is Michigan virtual created and we can't edit that in any way but the.

Ability to meet face to face for additional help and the response time they feel like it's been quicker I will say that with Michigan virtual we also felt like their teachers have been good with their response time too but the ability to walk down the hall and see somebody if you need to has just really increased the response time yeah and we're having getting similar feedback.

From our students as well and I think they appreciate that you know we're meeting them where they're at and there's a lot of students that would want to seek out a virtual option for a lot of different reasons we had students who are homebound but kind of the structure in which there the delivery of the instruction is happening homebound it's actually better.

For them to be in this virtual option still have that local feel connected to a local teacher and just different things the flexibility that they are experiencing any student who is college bound I think they feel that this is just preparing them for what it means to be a learner in a in a post k-12 setting as well great can you share the importance of having a quality mentor in.

The school for the success of online students yeah it really is um I think this is just my personal opinion but I think the mentor can make or break it the importance of the mentor just cannot be underestimated like the mentor has to have just some very innately strong communication skills and ability to relate to students and to understand.

Where they're coming from they really for us they are the glue so they're the glue between the cores the teacher the parents and the student on a regular basis there's a question that comes up with a student in their online learning one of my very first questions is what does the mentor say what does the mentor know like I really count on the mentor being the one that understands what's.

Going on in that student's life and what's impacting their ability to learn we found that the mentors and students that have strong relationships with each other those are the students that are more likely to stay on pace and finish their classes and that takes the mentor knowing how to coach how to switch their communication style if it's not working also for us the mentors keep tabs on you.

Know proctoring exams Michigan virtual classes need to have proctored exams so the mentors are the ones that make sure all of that happens really ultimately they just are the glue and they're the face to face connection for students on a regular basis to help mediate any issues they might be have in Michigan virtuals really excited and happy to share a we have Deb Lynch who.

Is our outreach coordinator for mentors who done runs regional sessions for mentors across the state records them and also makes personalized one-on-one visits or one-on-one coaching sessions for mentors around the state so that all those best practices that she's learned and actually implemented when she was a mentor are you know shared throughout the state and it's been super powerful.

We've had her on board for two years and we've seen such an impact in success rates across the across the state Kristen do have anything to add yeah just our local mentors are phenomenal they're like the air traffic controller you know they're strategizing and you know kind of balancing so many different things with so many different students and just the their ability to be.

Flexible and adapt and you know again to you know meet the students where they are and you know help them to be responsible and in charge of their learning but understanding these are high school students yet still that still need a lot of support and it's this gradual release to responsibilities and they are there in providing so many services above and beyond you know.

Troubleshooting and logging in and thinks they're just doing amazing work listen with that I'm going to turn it over to my colleague Mike who's gonna talk to us about how students taking online classes through a collaborative partnership provide flexibility and scheduling for both teacher and student and frankly what he's gonna share with you counselors love and being able to.

Offer flexibility in student scheduling Mike thanks as an administrator who put together many schedules I understand the difficulty in trying to meet all the students needs and the teachers needs so I'd like to talk a little bit about scheduling and how the collaborative partnership can be so beneficial and show you a couple examples say a student wants to take AP calculus that class may.

Be only taught face-to-face first in 3rd hour which coincides with the students other elective classes that they want to take band and art in the years past the student would have to make a choice that's not very personalized now that student can still fit AP Calculus in a schedule as the teacher is instructing in the class asynchronously which means it's not at.

The same time during the day as a matter of fact any student can now fit that class into their schedule any hour of the day the teacher would receive the same salary because as you can see on this example they have a full teaching load their classes online one online section and of course their planning period another example say the student has AP classes or electives that only.

Allow them to take government a required class the last period of the day and that class is not offered the last hour of the day and the teacher already has a full teaching load let that teacher instruct outside of the normal school day and pay them as a stipend much like a Schedule B and there are a variety of ways that the instructor can be compensated and we can walk you through.

Each of those processes this flexibility allows the students to take the classes they want and need at a time that works for them and it doesn't have to be the teachers from the same building such as in Saint Claire if your district doesn't have an AP statistics teacher tap into a teacher from another district and for the small schools this allows you to run a class that you would not normally run.

You might only have five students from your district that want to take the class but if you take your five students and three students from another school and seven from another school etc now you have enough enrollments to run the class it's just doing what's best for kids and providing them the instruction they need and it's cost effective back to what Kristen and Bobby Joe were.

Saying earlier this keeps local funds in local districts awesome thank you Mike our final question for the panel does online work for all students well it's about the million dollar question um so I know people may not believe me but I really do my personal belief is it can work for all students does it work for all students no but can it could it work for.

All students yes it really relies on the students personal drive and perseverance like their ability to manage time their ability to ask for help their ability to access supports but I will say you know one of my biggest learning aha through this has been I've sometimes been too hasty to prejudge or to predict who's gonna do well and sometimes I'm Way off we've had some students who have a 4.0.

Received one of their first lower grades in an online learning class we've also had some of our most struggling learners be the first to receive one of their first A's on their transcript so it really depends on the student their learning style their relationship with their mentor and just a lot of different factors but I would say it can work for all yep I 100% agree.

You know it's just about having a really thinking really big about what is it that students need to be successful in an online classroom and you know and then just creating that structure in Michigan virtual has been wonderful with this in terms of they have a Student Orientation they have a parent guide you know all the different people who have a role in making sure that student is.

Successful Michigan virtual already has tools to go in and help them do that and so that has really been huge for us and then just the thing you know we want students to have every opportunity possible and there's some students too in our area you know one in particular he plays hockey last year he was in Alaska this year he's in Canada we wouldn't want that student not to have.

An option to be served by their we'll district on because of time in place and then it just also creates an opportunity for other students to have a successful online experience and build the skills that it needs to be an independent learner which they need for all walks of life awesome we do have a successful profile here of an online learner Mike you want to talk a little.

Bit about this yeah we say that any student can be successful with online classes but Michigan virtual success rate at over 80% is obviously benefited by successful mentoring which we train successful training teacher preparation and as mentioned before the students are motivated they have good time management their technology technologically prepared and what we do is at Michigan.

Virtual we have a variety of resources that's our job is to build capacity in your district we have guides to help navigate you through this whole process and you can find these free guides on our website and again just remember that we're here to partner with you and build capacity in your teachers build capacity with your district and provide the education.

That students desire and should have well we do have one question in the queue still so I think this probably Kristin will come to you how did cost work when a small district that would they need instructors from other districts so what does the pay model look like for learn on across the county for you guys and how does that work with paying instructors yeah okay.

So actually Risa is that we employ the teachers to teach for us so on the local district doesn't have the burden of figuring out how to hire this person how to evaluate them and things like that they're actually work for Risa and we do a $125 per students and what we do is after the drop date ends we take that number of students and our teachers are paid you know halfway through the course.

And the remainder at the end but really all of that flows through Risa and we also have a consortium model for billing so Risa pays for all Michigan virtual enrollments and then we just go through the invoice and we build the districts for what they owe us for the contents and for our teacher stipend great do we have any other questions from the webinar either in the chat or.

If anybody wants to raise their hand and actually ask a question we have a few minutes left here to answer any questions you might have seeing none at this time I would like to thank Mike Bobby Jo and Kristen our panelists for being with us today and for sharing their stories and for really all the attendees who took time out of their day to participate we want to.

Thank you if you'd like more information Michigan virtual org slash collaborative and just a reminder that this has been recorded and will be coming to you via email here sometime later today so we really appreciate it thank you to all and have a great rest of your day we look forward to any future conversations with anyone who might be interested in starting a collaborative.

This coming fall take care everybody have a great one you

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